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please tell me you were home schooled...please

"they took the faith of santa claus out of christmas " ???

Are you kidding me? How about the faith in Jesus Christ? Christmas when I was young was about the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ. We went to Christmas Eve services, we had live nativities, and our family got together. Yes, there were gifts, and yes, the young believed in Santa, but that is not what the meaning of Christmas is supposed to be.

And I get tired of the overuse of "separation of church and state" as a means of keeping God out of schools.
That was put into the First Amendment as a means of keeping the government from ruling how we choose to worship. While I agree that forcing students to pray or worship God in the way the school see's fit, I do not agree that students not be allowed to pray, or have prayer during a school function if they so choose to on school grounds.
One reason so many of the first white Americans fled to this country was to have freedom to worship as they chose, and not be ordered by the king what religion they must follow.
So, if want to keep religion out of the school, while I may not agree with you, I can not argue with you either.
BUT, I refuse to let God, and Jesus Christ be taken out of MY Christmas.

tell me hillbilly....do they invite chickens and snakes to services at your church? who gives a royal cats arse as to when he was born....the important thing is what he said...dont make me use the moron word...anyone who would bad mouth a religion has none....but i think we ve all figured that out by now ...atleast in your case...religion is about thought and love...analysis and study...followed by charitable actions...not some moronic...damn...i used it...oh well...some moronic date...when was the magna carta signed...when was the constitution written....when was the spanish american war fought....1215..1787..1898...you dont know any details in american history...but you can still be an american...apply the same lesson to being a christian...and feed someone who is hungry

Rock27
Nov 30, 2007 | 8:06 PM "they took the faith of santa claus out of christmas " ???

Are you kidding me? How about the faith in Jesus Christ? Christmas when I was young was about the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ. We went to Christmas Eve services, we had live nativities, and our family got together. Yes, there were gifts, and yes, the young believed in Santa, but that is not what the meaning of Christmas is supposed to be.

And I get tired of the overuse of "separation of church and state" as a means of keeping God out of schools.
That was put into the First Amendment as a means of keeping the government from ruling how we choose to worship. While I agree that forcing students to pray or worship God in the way the school see's fit, I do not agree that students not be allowed to pray, or have prayer during a school function if they so choose to on school grounds.
One reason so many of the first white Americans fled to this country was to have freedom to worship as they chose, and not be ordered by the king what religion they must follow.
So, if want to keep religion out of the school, while I may not agree with you, I can not argue with you either.
BUT, I refuse to let God, and Jesus Christ be taken out of MY Christmas.

I'm mulling over some thopughts about what you have said.

I LIKE MIKE!!!

Well, rickyw put it rather bluntly, as is his way. But hillbilly, I agree that it does not matter when Jesus was born. It's really not important. The whole point of Christmas is just to remember that he was born to save us from our sins. The Christian practice of celebrating Jesus's birth in December comes from early pagans who celebrated at the winter solstice, Dec. 21, because the days now start growing longer (more light then dark). The longer light appeared, then soon it would be time for Spring planting, which meant food and life.

rickyw
Nov 30, 2007 | 7:30 PM please tell me you were home schooled...please

No such luck. He is a product of our modern day schools.
There I was, watching the Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Show when a 26 year old high school TEACHER comes on. She has this question. In which state is the Grand Canyon located? Her choices are, Maine, Wisconsin, Iowa, Arizona. Yes, multiple choice with the answers right in front of her. Yes, God help us, she got it wrong!
Plus, she was neither the first nor the last TEACHER to get simple questions like that wrong!
We need to scrap this modern politically correct crap and return to basic's. For example, my granddaughter has a "special teacher" once a week who teaches the students that it's okay to fail tests. That there is no need to get high or even passing marks on a test as long as they take the test.
What the hell?
Earning gold stars on your test paper? What does that mean? EVERYBODY gets a gold star on their paper. It's not politically correct to give gold stars only to the "good students"! It's more democratically equal to give EVERYONE a gold star! The result? No one knows where the Grand Canyon is located! Nor do they have any incentive to find out.
All that the students need to do is pass the Federally mandated test for elementary school. They will be taught how to do that. The school will have high test scores which is the Most important thing and Johnny still can't read when he goes into high school.
In high school, Johnny will be taught how to pass the Federally Mandated Tests and when he gets into college, Johnny sti

shadow...id like to ask you a question...and please answer as if you were that teacher on a quiz show for morons...damn....how many votes are there in the electoral college....if you dont know how we elect a president ...you have no right to an opinion on anything....and why the hell does it matter that a kid knows where the grand canyon is....please tell me you were homeschooled...you are the reason i want to bring back a colorblind literacy test for voting

and conservatives want religion taught in school for the same reason they want reading and math taught in school...because they cant do it at the family supper table...you have to remember .....rush limbaugh flunked out of college after two semesters....he even flunked ballroom dancing....and these people look to him for direction...do you really think they know anymore than six or seven biblical passages....if they did...they would teach it at the supper table like you and i and our parents did....go figure....find one conservative who can give you the ten commandments in order...i dare you ...and we ll start with hybrid

Bill, I agree with you. It is interesting how many societies keep the same customs for multiple generation. Solid moral foundations are built on the premise of traditionism and passed down to the next generation. Families remain families and even though there may be problem, somehow these family units maintain their basic fiber and remain strong.
Somehow it the US, our customs seem to be malleable for every wave of immigration that happens to land on our doorstep and it doesn't seem to matter how they gain access.
What used to be a healthy "melting pot" of immigrant movement in which those who came here actually were happy and enthusiastic to be given the right to assimilated to our traditional ways, or in some case even enhanced them with meaningful contributions, has become a cesspool of those that not only could give a sh## about our traditions, but seem to insist that we assimilate to their imported customs, language, etc.
A sad state of affairs indeed.

What used to be a healthy "melting pot" of immigrant movement in which those who came here actually were happy and enthusiastic to be given the right to assimilated to our traditional ways, or in some case even enhanced them with meaningful contributions, has become a cesspool of those that not only could give a sh## about our traditions, but seem to insist that we assimilate to their imported customs, language, etc.

quarryshark,
It's been my observation that most of those who do not want to assimilate and become Americans are Spanish speaking peoples. Those would be the people from Puerto Rico, Cubans (who got here in a similar fashion to the Mexicans), and the Mexicans. Why that would be I don't know. They want to live here but they don't want to be Americans. I lived in Mexifornia for a long time and never figured it out. Other states have a conflict. In New Mexico the Indians feel that it belongs to them. The Mexicans think that it belongs to them. Me? I live in beautiful Ohio. They can have the desert.