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by rjl2621 from Akron, Ohio

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Teacher beaten at Cleveland South
Jan 11, 2008 | 9:50 AM
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This story is absolutely sick. We all know there is violence in our cities and have had enough incidents to believe it is in our schools too -- but when a teacher is the one who is beaten and hospitalized, there is a problem.

What gets me the most about this story is the woman interviewed (spokewoman or whatever) who sat there on camera stating that the Cleveland schools are perfectly safe and they have no reason to believe otherwise. Hello? You had a suspended student enter a building several months back and begin shooting people and now you have kids in "rival gangs" beating up a teacher who was only trying to do his job -- which as school administrators, they are to protect the kids while they are at school.

Now I know why these days school administration usually tells teachers not to get involved and instead to contact security or the police. Unfortunately, in the time it takes for security or police to get there -- the situation could have already gotten 100 times worse.

I think it is unacceptable for the district to say there is no violence problem and that the schools are safe. Obviously they are not. But, it is also parents' responsibility to discipline their own children when they know they are doing something wrong. Until parents stop letting their kids do whatever they want, the situation is just going to get worse.

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shawty123 read my blog
Jan 11, 2008 | 11:14 AM

true that
caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Jan 11, 2008 | 1:18 PM

Nowdays, if a student has a vendetta or just plain doesn`t like a teacher, they falsely charge them, or beat them up, or even shoot them. Our` society has allowed total disrespect of authority figures. this includes teachers, policemen, even parents. If you do something your` child doesn`t agree with, you find yourself in court charged with child abuse. the judge tells you, " You can`t do this to this child !" Then when the kid gets in trouble, you find yourself back in court. Only this time, the judge is telling you," You`re responsible for this child !" This is a problem " spare the rod and spoil the child " has created. My dad loved me enough to guide me in the right direction by whatever means necessary. He`s gone now, but I sorely miss him and love him. If parental rights were restored, I think the picture would be much different.
rjl2621 read my blog
Jan 11, 2008 | 1:52 PM

You have a good point. Discipline is almost unheard of, but it is partially because everyone is afraid of being charged with child abuse. I'm not condoning the outright beating or abusing of a child, but a spanking is not abuse -- as long as it isn't taken too far.

I don't think we'll get back to the days when the leather belt and paddles with holes in them or with metal rivets in them are used, but a good ol' fashioned spanking might shape some of these brats up.

I don't consider the discipline I receieved growing up to be abuse, I consider it to have been teaching me the difference between right and wrong.

Even if you don't believe in spanking, parents need to set boundaries and consequences for crossing those boundaries. These days there are no consequences -- until its too late.
shawty123 read my blog
Jan 11, 2008 | 4:28 PM

casey you are right. i am a young woman and things started changing for the worse when they brought 696-kids to the forefront. parents were scarred. and still are. i am fortunate enough to have teenagers that aren't much into the gangs and the violence. they go to school, south high, and come home. my daughter has a job and my son can't wait to get his job at 16. god bless them.
shawty123 read my blog
Jan 11, 2008 | 4:31 PM

if they had stepped out of line at any point during their stay at my house at any given time, i would beat the **ck out of them. but didn't have to or don't now
quarryshark read my blog view my photos
Jan 11, 2008 | 9:32 PM

If the parents will not take care of these issues at home and expect the schools to raise these individuals for them, then some of the teachers need to be armed at the high school level.
These teachers have spouses and children that count on them being there too.
waterlover926 read my blog
Jan 12, 2008 | 5:41 AM

It saddens me when I hear these stories. Schools are set up to educate people. It's apparent that some kids don't want what the schools have to offer. Should they be forced to go anyway? Maybe that's a part of the problem. There are many kids that want a good education and they show it by conducting themselves in a studious manner, however there are those who are in constant trouble and are robbing the other students of getting a good education, due to disruptions in the classrooms or the school. Schools should be for those who want it.
gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 7:23 AM

"If parental rights were restored, I think the picture would be much different."-Casey Jones

The parents have TOO many rights as it is! That is one reason why these problems exist in the first place!

All parents say, I think there should be discipline in the public schools- until THEIR kid acts out and gets some of that discipline, then they blame the teachers and the administrators- because parents are selfish and do not want to believe that their children are bad, but they are.
palexchick226 read my blog
Jan 12, 2008 | 10:10 AM

my old elementary school went from decent to bad in one year. in 6th grade (my last year there)there were a few problems. i guess a year later, kids were jumping teachers, and one kid even pushed a teacher down the stairs.

i'm in 9th grade now, and while i do feel safe at m school, i don't feel the schools in cleveland are abosolutely safe.

and this might be a little off topic, but i know one of the women in the video shown on this yesterday. when they had shown the teachers watching the fight video, they had shown the lady who did most of the talking. i know the african american woman next to her; she worked at my old school.
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 10:35 AM

I'm sorry but I think children have far to many rights. The idea that a person who can not be held accountable having rights to me is absurd. Children should be cared for. Don't get me wrong. But how on Earth can a parent be held legally and financially accountable for a child when they have all the rights? I think it's bull. Children can stay gone if they choose. Try getting the police to bring them home. That's a joke! But the parents are accountable when the police have them at the jail at 3 in the morning. Girls can have sex and be pregnant with out the parent knowing. But they are accountable when the baby comes. Children can be doing drugs. Good luck getting the school, police or Dr's to drug test a child who refuses. But guess who's legally accountable? All of this is ridiculous. If I can't have the control of the child then I should not have the legal and financial retributions of them either! Thank God mine are grown!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel for all you parents that are trying to raise a decent child in these times.
gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 11:01 AM

I believe that the parents themselves share much of the blame and if they were doing their jobs, there would be less fighting and trouble at public schools.
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 11:08 AM

Gorbash: Spoken like a true person without children. I raised 5 children which are all grown. I agree there are lots of parents who do NOT do there job. But if you are one of the unfortunate parents who do try to raise there children with morals and values, they are fighting an up hill losing battle most of the time. These parents will not receive any help from anywhere. Including the school, police, or the medical field. I can only hope that one day you do NOT find out what I'm talking about.
dh44004
Jan 12, 2008 | 1:07 PM

I know of a fix to all the violence in schools during summer vacation send all able teachers to security or police training and have them dress in uniform then lets see these dumb thugs couse fights just an idea
gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 2:41 PM

"These parents will not receive any help from anywhere. Including the school, police, or the medical field. I can only hope that one day you do NOT find out what I'm talking about."-Klh

Help? Help? Help you say?

Well, that Help sound like a Socialist program doesn't it? There have been several parental help programs that Liberal Democrats have proposed, including the Job Corps (helps young kids learn job skills during summer break along with discipline and respect) Community Nursing centers that watch children when the parents are away at work (this program is often objected by Republicans, who don't want to spend their tax money on helping kids and parents). There are MANY of these programs that used to exist to help parents but were eliminated by Conservative Republican administrations or are being defunded and not doing as well because of that defunding or they have been prevented from being created by Conservatives.
Lexus6266
Jan 12, 2008 | 6:31 PM

This again this shows the society can have kids, but are not responsible in raising them. If you dont want kids, there are ways to avoid this today, or is this another way to get more money from the gov't,(tax payers), more kids = more gov't checks. Hmm?
betterdays read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 7:07 PM

The parents have TOO many rights as it is! That is one reason why these problems exist in the first place! gorbash:there you go again gorbash your answer to the problem is to let the government raise kids.i take full responsibility for my kids. thats why if they screwed up they got there little butts paddled.we now have one in college and one in jr high nether has ever been arrested or in trouble at school,and we did it without the government poking there nose in our business.our kids were taught that when you this house you represent everyone in this family.there is nothing wrong with a good old fashion but woopin.
betterdays read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 7:09 PM

sorry meant to say when you leave this house
betterdays read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 7:10 PM

casey your right allot of kids don't have any respect
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 11:20 PM

No gorbash that isn't what I said at all. What I said was when I take my child to the Dr. that I suspect may be doing drugs and demand a drug test done. I expect the Dr. to do his job. Not lecture on the how's, why's, what's etc. about them, and give me a hard time because the child has a right to refuse. When I have a problem with one of my children I expect the police to come and take of it. You know... Do there job. Not sit there and tell these parents they can't do anything. But we'll keep a record of your calls. When I have a problem at the school with my child I expect them to notify me. Not wait weeks and then tell me they don't want to be involved. But in the mean time I better do something with the child. What a load. But for sure.... You really ave no idea on this subject. So you can say what ever you like but it's all a theory in your head until (if ever) it becomes a reality for you. But if I'm not mistaken you have said you are a homosexual. So if this is true you undoubtedly will never know what me or any other parent is saying.
betterdays read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 11:32 PM

gorboy's gay did'nt know that but it would explain allot LOL LOL
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