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 WHERE DOES THIS MONKEY THINK THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM ? THIS IS ANOTHER PROGRAM TO "BAILOUT" THE WEALTHY. WHAT DOES IT DO FOR THE POOR SAP THAT IS LOSING HIS HOME, AND WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO PAY ALL OF THIS BACK ? THE BUSH "FLUB-A-DUB" WILL STILL BE FELT BY OUR` GRANDCHILDREN LONG AFTER THIS FAILURE IS GONE !

Bush team, Congress negotiate $700B bailout

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Sep 20, 7:52 PM (ET)

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and DEB RIECHMANN
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WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration asked Congress on Saturday for the power to buy $700 billion in toxic assets clogging the financial system and threatening the economy as negotiations began on the largest bailout since the Great Depression.

The rescue plan would give Washington broad authority to purchase bad mortgage-related assets from U.S. financial institutions for the next two years. It does not specify which institutions qualify or what, if anything, the government would get in return for the unprecedented infusion.

Democrats are pressing to require that the plan help more strapped borrowers stay in their homes and to condition the bailout on new limits on executive compensation.

Congressional aides and administration officials are working through the weekend to fill in the details of the proposal. The White House hoped for a deal with Congress by the time markets opened Monday; top lawmakers say they would push to enact the plan as early as the coming week.

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"We're going to work with Congress to get a bill done quickly," President Bush said at the White House. Without discussing specifics, he said, "This is a big package because it was a big problem."

The proposal is a mere three pages long, but it gives sweeping powers to the government to dispense gigantic sums of taxpayer dollars in a program that would be sheltered from court review.

"It's a rather brief bill with a lot of money," said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., the Banking Committee chairman. "We understand the importance of the anticipation in the markets, but we also know that what we're doing is going to have consequences for decades to come. There's not a second act to this - we've got to get this right."

Lawmakers digesting the eye-popping cost and searching for specifics voiced concerns that the proposal offers no help for struggling homeowners or safeguards for taxpayers' money.

The government must bail out the financial system "because if we don't, it will have a tremendous impact on American consumers, homeowners, taxpayers and the rest," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in San Francisco.

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But, she added, "We cannot deal with this unless this bailout helps families stay in their homes."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. said "we cannot allow ourselves to be in denial about the threat now facing the world economy. From all indications, that threat is real, and the consequences of inaction could be catastrophic. Every single American has a stake in preventing a global financial meltdown."

The proposal would raise the statutory limit on the national debt from $10.6 trillion to $11.3 trillion to make room for the massive rescue.

"The American people are furious that we're in this situation, and so am I," the House's top Republican, Ohio Rep. John A. Boehner, said in a statement. "We need to do everything possible to protect the taxpayers from the consequences of a broken Washington."

Signaling what could erupt into a brutal fight with Democrats over add-on spending, Boehner said "efforts to exploit this crisis for political leverage or partisan quid pro quo will only delay the economic stability that families, seniors, and small businesses deserve."

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Bush said he worried the financial troubles "could ripple throughout" the economy and affect average citizens. "The risk of doing nothing far outweighs the risk of the package. ... Over time, we're going to get a lot of the money back."

He added, "People are beginning to doubt our system, people were losing confidence and I understand it's important to have confidence in our financial system."

Neither presidential candidate took a position on the proposal. GOP nominee John McCain said he was awaiting specifics and any changes by Congress.

Democratic rival Barack Obama used the party's weekly radio address to call for help for Main Street as well as Wall Street.

Their language reflected a tricky balance that politicians in both parties are trying to strike, just six weeks before Election Day: Back a plan that doles out hundreds of billions to companies that made bad bets and still identify with the plight of middle-class voters.

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Besides mortgage help and executive compensation limits, Democrats are considering attaching middle-class assistance to the legislation despite a request from Bush to avoid adding items that could delay action. An expansion of jobless benefits was one possibility.

Bush sidestepped questions about the chances of adding such items, saying that now was not the time for posturing. "I think most leaders would understand we need to get this done quickly, and you know, the cleaner the better," he said about legislation being drafted.

Treasury officials met congressional staff for about two hours on Capitol Hill on Saturday. Discussions centered on how the plan would work, and Democrats proposed adding the executive compensation limits and new foreclosure-prevention measures. Details of those changes were not available Saturday. Bush and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson conferred by phone for about 20 minutes in the afternoon, gauging how the negotiations were unfolding.

Among the key issues up for negotiation is which financial institutions would be eligible for the help. The proposed legislation doesn't make it clear, leaving open the question of whether hedge funds or pension funds could qualify.

On Saturday night, Treasury released a fact sheet stating that eligible financial institutions "must have significant operations in the U.S." unless Paulson determines, after consulting with Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, that "broader eligibility is necessary to effectively stabilize financial markets."

The proposal does not require that the government receive anything from banks in return for unloading their bad assets. But it would allow Treasury to designate financial institutions as "agents of the government," and mandate that they perform any "reasonable duties" that might entail.

The government could contract with private companies to manage the assets it purchased under the rescue.

Paulson says the government would in essence set up reverse auctions, putting up money for a class of distressed assets - such as loans that are delinquent but not in default - and financial institutions would compete for how little they would accept.




 IN ROME THEY KISS THE POPES` RING. BUT IN AMERICA, THIS IS THE WAY IT`S BEEN DONE FOR 8 YEARS !!!!!!!!!!
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mommiegrandma read my blog view my photos
Sep 20, 2008 | 9:33 PM

LOL, Casey that last picture is sooooooo freakin funny, I can't stop laughing......

mommiegrandma read my blog view my photos
Sep 20, 2008 | 9:35 PM

Casey, now that I have gotten control of myself and stopped laughing.... some.

I want to say this bail out is called CORPORATE WELFARE!!

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Sep 20, 2008 | 9:52 PM

Yes ! And who is benefiting from it ?

gangster read my blog
Sep 20, 2008 | 11:28 PM

Funny thing is, wait till you apply for a home loan and see what those same bail-out companies will make you go through? Then if you are lucky to get the loan from one of them; you will pay it back both with interest and then when you file taxes in the form of that bail-out. Only in America!

superbrowns read my blog view my photos
Sep 21, 2008 | 8:10 AM

Maybe the guy on his knee's is counting CHANGE.

How many compaines are we going to bail-out first the airlines then the Auto Industries and now banks.
I guess no matter how much money you make you still look for a hand out, I am treading water pretty good (I did take swiming in school) so I can tread water for a long time.
I think the government should take over the mortgages and let the compaines fall, I know what some may say but I would have to say the company should have made better choices, I have heard that people should think before they buy shouldn't Compaines live by the same rules.
I am not going to buy a car without a engine and I'm not going to buy a house without walls, so then I would have to ask why a bank would give a loan to someone that can't pay it back.
I would also have to add to that, the bank gives a loan to someone with bad credit, the APR is higher for them and sometimes adjustible rates this sound to me like the bank is setting them up so they will fail.
The bank is thinking short term when they give high rates to people, they figure lets bleed as much out of them before they foreclose

superbrowns read my blog view my photos
Sep 21, 2008 | 8:10 AM

Maybe the guy on his knee's is counting CHANGE.

How many compaines are we going to bail-out first the airlines then the Auto Industries and now banks.
I guess no matter how much money you make you still look for a hand out, I am treading water pretty good (I did take swiming in school) so I can tread water for a long time.
I think the government should take over the mortgages and let the compaines fall, I know what some may say but I would have to say the company should have made better choices, I have heard that people should think before they buy shouldn't Compaines live by the same rules.
I am not going to buy a car without a engine and I'm not going to buy a house without walls, so then I would have to ask why a bank would give a loan to someone that can't pay it back.
I would also have to add to that, the bank gives a loan to someone with bad credit, the APR is higher for them and sometimes adjustible rates this sound to me like the bank is setting them up so they will fail.
The bank is thinking short term when they give high rates to people, they figure lets bleed as much out of them before they foreclose

superbrowns read my blog view my photos
Sep 21, 2008 | 8:11 AM

OOPS!!!! coffee jitters

hdrider read my blog
Sep 21, 2008 | 8:27 AM

With Dem-o-Rats like Charlie Wrangler running the Committees, what else could you expect. Pelosi now wants us to drill where there is no oil. I wish Gas would hit twenty bucks a gallon, just to wake up America. You all _itch, yet this is our Nation. In other countries, they know how to deal with Politicians like ours. I saw them lying in an alley in one country, they hung some in another country, and the best was the Military doing the good for the PEOPLE!!!

stylegal read my blog view my photos
Sep 21, 2008 | 2:48 PM

And they scream about those losing their homes. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

And we should foot the bill for those NINJA mortgages?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/sep/30/5

Then there are those that have a mortgage on a vacation hone
Should we foot the bill on that?
And then those that wanted to get rich quick buying homes and flipping them, and they didn't know the market or what they were doing.
Should we foot the bill on that?

The answer to all of them is NO

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Sep 21, 2008 | 11:24 PM

Well, I see hdrider is on his` soapbox with his broken record blaming the dems for all the conservative F-ups. He`s really brainwashed !

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Sep 21, 2008 | 11:32 PM

Right on, Captain !

girlscout read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 9:34 AM

Try de-caf, superbrowns.

HybridTalk read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 1:41 PM

I liked this ad.

ANNOUNCER: Obama has no background in economics. Who advises him? The Post says it's Franklin Raines for advice on mortgage and housing policy. Shocking. Under Raines, Fannie Mae committed extensive financial fraud. Raines made millions, Fannie Mae collapsed. Taxpayers, stuck with the bill. Barack Obama, bad advice, bad instincts, not ready to lead.


MCCAIN: While Fannie Mae was betraying the public trust somehow its former CEO had managed to gain my opponent's trust to the point where Senator Obama actually put him in charge of his vice presidential search. Another CEO for Fannie Mae, Mr. Raines, has been advising Senator Obama on housing policy. This even after Fannie Mae was found to have committed "extensive financial fraud under his leadership." Like Mr. Johnson, Mr. Raines walked away, guess what, tens of millions of dollars.


MCCAIN: We've heard a lot of words from Senator Obama on the course of this campaign, but maybe just this once he could spare us the lectures and admit to his own poor judgment in contributing to these problems. The crisis on Wall Street started in the Washington culture of lobbying and influence peddling, and he was right square in the middle of it.

Obama is in the middle of all of this corruption. That isn't change.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/19/mccain-attacks
-obama-on-ties-to-former-fannie-mae-ceos/

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Sep 22, 2008 | 6:59 PM

"The crisis on Wall Street started in the Washington culture of lobbying and influence peddling, and he was right square in the middle of it." - Hybrid

Name me some politicians who weren`t !

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2008 | 6:28 AM

casey, seems to me that back in 2005 (as superbrowns has pointed out to all of us) that mccain, et al were trying to put a stop to this very thing. that doesn't sound like a politician right in the middle of it to me!

mccain & others were trying to warn the government that this was coming & that they needed to get control of it before it got OUT of control.

of course, the liberal dems in congress killed THAT proposal in their pursuit of "everyone needs to buy a house, even if they can't afford it or don't deserve it" line.

that's where this all started, the liberal dems screaming (back in clinton's era) that the mortgage lenders were discriminating against low income people with bad credit ratings.

before that, the only people who could get mortgages were the ones who #1 paid their bills (thus GOOD credit rating) #2 saved their money (downpayment, remember the 20% requirement?) #3 could PROVE that they could pay for it (a JOB, mostly)

so NOW, ALL of us are having to pay for it. and don't forget, mccain & company were trying to STOP this from happening.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2008 | 10:54 AM

In 1999, McCain voted for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44.[44] The deregulation bill loosened restrictions on the activities of banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. In 2002 he voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which passed the Senate without opposition.[45] In 2007, however, McCain stated that he regretted his vote in favor of Sarbanes-Oxley,[46] which strengthened financial reporting requirements for publicly held companies but which has been the subject of complaints from businesses.
In 2008, McCain expressed approval of the results of financial deregulation by pointing to it as a model for health care policy, writing: "Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation."[47]

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2008 | 10:58 AM

Aaaah, McCAIN DID WHAT ?
He did what all of the other butt-kissing politicians in D.C. did !

HybridTalk read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2008 | 11:14 AM

What is this crazy talk I have heard around the water cooler this morning about Obama committing incest with his daughters?

girlscout read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2008 | 11:46 AM

Are you serious or is this a very sick joke?

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2008 | 12:31 PM

sounds like a sick joke to me hybrid. do you have some sort of confirmation?

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I am 70 yrs. old and I have never seen our country in such dire straits as it is today. I was born in W.Va., Grew up in Pa. with Bobby Vinton, and ended up in Oh. Back then, when you graduated from high school in W.Va.,Pa.,or Ky., you received a diploma and a road map to Ohio. I grew up in the 50`s and 60`s, so I know what really good times in our` country were. GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN !

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