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    Alright using Mayor Frank Jackson's logic (by passing a blanket law over the gun issue being unconstitutional because local governments can't pass their own laws) the smoking ban is unconstitutional as well. It is a blanket law covering the whole state of Ohio that prevents local governments from passing its own laws on it. 

     I agree we need a blanket law covering the whole state of Ohio but it needs to meet the highest needs of the most dangerous cities. As far as the whole concealed carry thing. People who use guns illegally (i.e. murder) are not going to get the permits. They won't care about gun laws and permits and things like that. They will get their hands on a gun and carry it concealed regardless. Your average law abiding citizen who goes out and takes the classes and gets the permit are not going to go out and shoot someone (there are probably exceptions). The ones who don't hesitate to kill are not worried about some gun law. Just my two cents

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klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Mar 15, 2007 | 8:25 AM

Yes I totally agree. Any criminal is not going to abide by the laws. That's why they are called a criminal. Some times I wonder where our officials heads are. I know they have all these problems to deal with. But it seems like the law abiding citizen always pays the consequences for the criminals. I have nothing against guns. I was raised around them and my dad taught me how to use them. I definately have a problem with the people who use them for crimes though.

betterdays read my blog view my photos
Mar 15, 2007 | 8:54 AM

it has nothing to do with GUN control it's all about CONTROL

stuman read my blog
Mar 15, 2007 | 4:10 PM

Let us keep in mind that we do not really have the right to carry guns in the first place. It is a very popular misconception that the 2nd ammendment give you the right to have a gun. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. The U. S. Supreme Court has decided long ago that 2nd ammendment means that we have a right to maintain a well regulated malitia...in other words, it gives the rights to have a national guard. Private ownership is not a constitutional right. the right to bear arms is a right to have a national guard...nothing more. nothing less. sorry NRA, you lose.

stuman read my blog
Mar 15, 2007 | 4:18 PM

Supreme Court's long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S. v. Miller] that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected.

pitman1937 view my photos
Mar 15, 2007 | 6:20 PM

I have never voted for any politician who has a record of voting for any type of gun control. Anyone who believes in restricting the law abiding citizen from owning any type of firearms should move to England & get a good education what gun control really does. Last time I checked, the crime rate increased by 48% after the law abiding citizens gave up their firearms. Doesn’t take very many smarts to realize that the criminal will always have their guns.

hdrider read my blog
Mar 15, 2007 | 8:23 PM

Without the Second Amendment all of the others will be meaningless.Stuman; read the Second Amedment if you can read! There is a big difference between a Militia and People! The Gov. has broken our Constitution so many times just by passing a law to strip us of our Rights. Read about searches and seizures. Now they just take you're property. Got it.

Archer read my blog
Mar 15, 2007 | 8:29 PM

This is where everyone usually MISINTERPRETS the 2nd Amendment. You, me and every able bodied citizen that owns a weapon is expected to come to the aid and defense of their country if needed. This is the well regulated militia that the Framers were writing about.
As far as the Supreme court ruling, the details of that case are as follows: U.S. v. Miller (1939)

Frank Layton and Jack Miller were charged with violating the 1934 National Firearms Act, which regulated and taxed the transfer of certain types of firearms, and required the registration of such arms. The Miller court held the following:

1) The National Firearms Act was not an unconstitutional usurpation of police power reserved to the states.

2) "In the absence of evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than 18 inches in length,' which is the subject of regulation and taxation by the National Firearms Act of June 26, 1934, has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, it cannot be said the the Second Amendment to the Federal Constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument, or that the statute violates such constitutional provision."

3) "It is not within judicial notice that a shotgun having a barrel of less than 18 inches in length is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense."

4) "The Second Amendment must be interpreted and applied with a view to its purpose of rendering effective the M

Archer read my blog
Mar 15, 2007 | 8:31 PM

The rest...........

4) "The Second Amendment must be interpreted and applied with a view to its purpose of rendering effective the Militia."

As noted in the Summary section, Miller has often been mis-cited. Note that in the entire text of Miller, neither the words "state militia" nor "National Guard" are to be found.

Regarding item 4) above, the Miller court defined the Militia as the following:

The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

hillbilly67 read my blog view my photos
Mar 15, 2007 | 10:11 PM

You know I told my husband a year ago when the gun law went into effect. We are going to be like in the west, every man, woman and kids, are going to be carrying guns and we are going to be like the O.K. corall. Sad. No one should be carrying a gun, if they get mad at you, just pick up the gun out of their car and shoot you, because they can. Heck no....

stuman read my blog
Mar 15, 2007 | 11:05 PM

The 2nd Ammendment does not address the issue of the "private" ownership of guns. It states, "A well regulated malitia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this to mean that each state has the right to maintain a militia--a citizen army called to military servicein cases of emergency (i.e. the National Guard). This is the COLLECTIVE right of the people to use certain weapons COLLECTIVELY, and does not mean that individuals have the right to have their own guns. Rights of privacy diminish where the object at issue is dangerous to others. Thus, lawmkers may regulate the licensing, sale, possession and use of guns and may even ban them all together. The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld the right of a municipality to ban the private ownership of guns (Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove).

Archer read my blog
Mar 16, 2007 | 9:58 AM

Well sadly, we could argue this point till we all die and neither of us would change our beleifs. The facts are that "the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." This does not say "National Guard" or "Military" or "Police", It says "PEOPLE".
I honestly do not know how they could have been any clearer.
As far as the comments of Ohio turning into the OK Corral, concealed carry has been in effect since 2004. This is 2007.... when exactly will this big shootout be happening???
I carry a concealed weapon for protection of my family and myself, end of story. If there have been any instances of someone who has a permit to carry commiting a felony or killing someone, I have not heard about it yet. I have a permit but I also know what is legally and MORALY right, this is what makes me NOT a criminal.

stuman read my blog
Mar 16, 2007 | 2:42 PM

FACT: "people" is a collective term...as defined by the supreme court. it has nothing to do with individuals' rights.

Archer read my blog
Mar 16, 2007 | 7:44 PM

FACT: "people" is plural, not collective,meaning ALL people individualy.The Supreme court has already upheld this 4 seperate times. They will no doubt be ruling on this once again because of the recent ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on Friday March,9 .
"We conclude that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms," Silberman said in the 58-page majority ruling.

hdrider read my blog
Mar 17, 2007 | 10:16 AM

Well Stuman;
Here we go again. Please read the Preamble to our Constitution!"We the People" Provide for the Common Defense. This is the Fact. No where does it state in the Preamble or our Constitution that we, our so called leaders or any Court is to interpret any of the original writings. The whole issue of interpretation evolved by lawyers and judges. If you study any of the Second Amend. you will see that we the people are to have the very same weapons that we ask our military to protect the country with. Please note, I did not say PEOPLE. We the PEOPLE are to Protect ourselves and our neighbors and our Posterity, if you don't know the meaning of Posterity, look it up. You keep citing the Courts have decided the issues that they really have no rights to decide. Infringed. ( to violate, breach or break the Law). Is our Constitution the Law of the land? Don't be in such a hurry to take my Right away, lest you may lose yours!!'

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butterflykisses427

I'm 24 years old and was born and raised in the Cleveland area. I currently reside in Akron. Last year I received my Bachelor's degree in Early Childhood Education with a minor in Child Development. I currently hold a teaching license. I am one of five children. I live with my boyfriend, our three cats, and hamster.

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