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Full Monty Music Teacher
Mar 12, 2007 | 6:09 AM
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A music teacher performs in a play, after school hours, away from school property, in an environment where children under 17 can't enter without their parents, and the school district in which he works wants him to resign just because he exposes is bare butt on stage? What kind of puritanical mental midgets are these people? I could see where there could be a problem if he was a Chippendale dancer, or a porn actor, but c'mon people, It's the Full Monty. It's a fun play. And they don't even show the "Full Monty". This is what happens when you give a group of idiots a little power. Happens everyday. Most of us see it when we go to work!  By the way, Good Morning.

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klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 9:24 AM

Things sure has changed since I was a kid. All the stuff you hear going on with teachers to me is mind boggling. I know I would have been totally surprised and dissapointed to hear of these kind of things being done by my teachers. I can remember this one teacher I had for Spanish class. I always liked him and thought he was a good teacher. I ran into him not to long after graduation, and I was totally appauled when he hit on me! I never had respect for him again. I guess I'm just guilty of feeling that certain positions should be held to a higher standard. Right or wrong.
stuman read my blog
Mar 12, 2007 | 4:13 PM

I am a science teacher. Yes, I am expected to be a role model. But guess what...what I do on my own time is my own business. Period. My job is to teach kids at school. Already, I am expected to do work (grading, lesson planning etc) at home (60+ hours per week 7 days per week). if you want me to be a role model at home too then PAY ME FOR IT DAMMIT. my salary is BLEEP compared to what it should be. You want me to baby sit your kids, you want me to teach your kids academics, you want me to discipline your kid, you want me to be a role model for your kid, you want me to teach your kid to be a good citizen, you want me to go to their extra curricular activities, you want me to raise your kid. I get paid to teach the "three r's" that's it. Don't expect teachers to be miracle workers. You need to step up to the plate and teach your kids certain values at home...don't leave it up to the teachers to raise your kid for you. Teachers start out making less than $25,000 at most school districts---I made more than this when I was a short order cook (which involved much less work and I didn't bring work home with me). I don't get paid to be a role model during my personal time. Yes, I am a role model at all times because that's my character...but I don't get paid for it so don't expect me to do it. if I wanted to be a stripper (a LEGAL PROFESSION), a political activist, or even a stock boy during my non-teaching hours, then that is my own business--NOT YOURS. IF you want me to be a full time 24 hour teacher then PAY ME FOR IT. but, as it stands, as long as I make less than

stuman read my blog
Mar 12, 2007 | 4:21 PM

(the blog didn't print everything).

...as long as i make less than I should be making, SHUT UP. I don't want to hear it. My personal life is none of your business. If you want me to be on my best behavior 24-7, then SHOW ME THE MONEY. But as long as I live from paycheck to paycheck, and as long as I don't get paid enough to be a home owner, keep you nose out of my personal life. I don't want to hear it.
Bigguy read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 4:30 PM

Well said. I've always had a problem with "watch my kid, teach my kid, support my kid, but don't you dare dicipline my kid! Hypocrites one and all.
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 6:05 PM

I agree that teachers are held accountable for some things that they should not be when it comes to school children. But I kind of have a problem when it comes to separating work and personal life. I don't see how a person can separate the two. Especially there personal life. Not all can choose the type of work they end up doing, but they have total choice when it comes to there personal life. That defines them. So say a person is a teacher by day, and a bank robber by night. Would that be considered ok? It doesn't effect his teaching. Or what if he is an alcoholic or maybe a drug abuser. Even if it's a legal prescribed drug. Everything a person does defines them. I don't see how a person can separate there work from personal life. The same person does both.
m-tru read my blog
Mar 12, 2007 | 6:19 PM

But we are all missing the real meaning of rhis blog... he was in a "play" after school hours and kids under 17 have to be with their PARENTS. There is the key phrase...parents have to give permission. Maybe it's time parents step up and be parents and be informed about what they let there child do and see!!
Bigguy read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 6:37 PM

I must disagree. You choose to be a teacher, mainly because you spent a boatload of money learning to be one. And yes, what a person does in their personal life defines them. Drug addicts and alcoholics will fall, that's inevitable. A bank robber will get caught. This guy is a music teacher...an artist. Guess what, he was in a play...an artistic endeavour. Does this define him? You betcha. He should be applauded instead of villified. What if the person involved was your mayor, or police chief. Would you still feel they should held to a higher standard. How about a laborer or fast food worker? Where is the line drawn?
Bigguy read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 6:45 PM

Thanx M-Tru. That is my point. Too many people rely on others to make decisions for them. Time to take the time and get involved in what runs through our lives instead of letting others dictate our morals and standards.
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 6:50 PM

I really don't know where the line is. But I just have a problem with it. I can't help it. Yes I would be upset with mayors or police. It just doesn't seem right to be showing there butt for any reason. I would be more apt to expect it from a lesser job. I guess I would expect it more. Is that wrong to think that? Probably. But I just can't help the thought.
Bigguy read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 6:56 PM

Thanx for the honesty klh. Can't fault ya for that. That's what discussions are all about.
stuman read my blog
Mar 13, 2007 | 2:16 PM

teachers do have personal lives...because they are real people. being an actor in a play is a legal profession. being a stripper is a legal profession. being a bar tender is a legal profession. THESE PROFESSIONS ARE ACCEPTED BY LAW. therefore a teacher has the right to be any of these on their off hours. any job that is legal is not immoral. the public needs to realize that teachers are entitled to live a life outside of school. it's bad enough that we have to have a parent/teacher conference in the grocery store because the parent thinks that i want to talk to them outside of school on my free time. i don't want to talk shop when i am not working. i don't get paid for it. how many of you want to work for free? teachers do it all the time. therfore when they do have personal time, IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT THEY DO. As long as the teacher is effective in the classroom, that is all that matters. if you want me to do extra duties on my free time, SHOW ME THE MONEY.

don't ask me to RAISE your kid for you. It's YOUR JOB as the parent to instill values in your own kids. teachers get paid to teach acedemics. we should not be your nanny. if you think frontal nudity is wrong...that's your job to tell them--not the schools. step up to the plate and be a parent. i am tired of lazy parents blaming the school for not doing the parents' job. if you didn't want to raise your own kids, then why did you have them? do you want to know why american education has declined? it's because we spend too much time doing nonteaching duties.
Bigguy read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2007 | 6:32 PM

I'm with ya stuman. We have two wonderful kids. They are concientious, couteous, hard working individuals. All qualities instilled in them by THEIR community. What I mean by that is they were taught not only by us, but their aunts, uncles,grandparents, and TEACHERS. Their teachers were accents in their learnig of life. ANOTHER resource, not the MAIN resource. How is a child going to get a fighting chance when the main source of constructive education is a person who also has possibly 20 or 30 other kids competing for the same attention. It will never happen. And the biggest neglectors are the ones who scream the loudest that society has failed them. They need to get off their arse and raise their own damn kids!!!
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47 yrs. old. Married 25 years, and father of two, both kids grown and on their own {except for Baxter, our Corgi}.I work construction, and love to repair all our own stuff(home, cars etc.). I truly love our city. It,s got big city culture without big big city petentiousness. Sure we have our problems, but ya take the good with the bad. We have three pro sports teams, all of which are supported by our fans, good or bad. This city has much to offer if we all just look past the negative and see the light.

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